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Topic: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Thomas E.
Location: Michigan
Date: 04/02/2013

In Halo Primordium we learned that the Ancient Tier 1 humans believed the Primordial was a life form made up of multiple other life forms and they classified it as a Gravemind. The IsoDidact also refers to the Primordial as a Gravemind when he confronts it on Installation 07. However there is still some confusion as to whether or not the Primordial was in fact a Gravemind.

When the Ur-Didact first hears the voice of the Gravemind in his head he immediately attributes it to the Primordial and the Gravemind itself even mentions that he and the Primordial are the same when he explains their history. The Master Juridical on the other hand mentions the IsoDidact killed a Primordial, as apposed to killing the Primordial, and then said that the Gravemind was just the nearest equivalent to the Primordial.

Personally to me it seems like the Primordial was a a precursor, (pun intended), to the Gravemind. Based on the definition of Primordial, which means "original or first formed" it would seem that the Primordial was an original form of what we come to call the Gravemind. The Flood Gravemind which formed after the Primordial's demise is a new form created by the Precursors who formed the Flood.

I am just curious to know if my interpretation was accurate or am I completely wrong?

Re: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Greg Bear
Date: 04/10/2013

The Graveminds have certainly expanded and become more complex since the last Precursor. But yes, they're all related.

Re: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Thomas E.
Location: Michigan
Date: 04/16/2013

I would say complex is an understatement after 100 billion years of evolution. Was the Primordial truly the last Precursor though? The Primordial had only said it was the last of "this" kind and the Gravemind mentioned that some Precursors were spared and chose to go dormant, while the others became the Powder. It was never said what happened to those who went dormant.

I wonder if they are the ones who were said to have gone beyond the Forerunner's reach and continued to create? Unless of course that was supposed to be a reference to Path Kethona? Path Kethona however was within the Forerunner's reach since they went there to continue their assault.

So are there more Precursors hidden throughout the universe? Or is the Flood truly the last of the Precursors? The more I learn about the Precursors the more questions I have.

Re: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Nicholas
Location:
Date: 06/18/2013

Interesting. Since the Primordial is a Gravemind, does this mean that he is the "darker source of command" that Chakas felt in his mind while saving Installation 07 from destruction?

Re: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Greg Bear
Date: 06/25/2013

Hmmm... Could be!

Re: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Tyler
Location:
Date: 06/26/2013

In other interpretations on the flood, graveminds, precursor relationships in Halo: Silentium. Some believe that the gravemind and flood are just lesser forms of a precursor, and once a gravemind reaches a peak biomass, it returns to a precurser newly evolved.

It did state in Halo: Silentium that the fine powder is a lesser precursor. But also states that ancient humans tampered with it on organisms thus creating flood forms. Which corrupted the fine powder.

So my question is whether a precurser can be reborn per say from enough gravemind biomass or is this theory completely ludercrus and insane.

Re: Primordial is a Gravemind after all?

From: Greg Bear
Date: 06/26/2013

Given the creativity and perverse ingenuity of the Precursors, I'd say anything is possible!

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