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Topic: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get "F.O.G" and "Anvil of Stars" into production!

From: John S
Location: Western MA
Date: 07/18/2012

I know you have a lot on you plate, but these two novels have, IMHO, the best chance in not only translating into genre-defining films, but raising the bar on all Sci-Fi films. Who is your agent? Get this man/woman cracking! (LOL). Also, any update on a possible third book in the series?

I can't believe we get stuff like "Prometheus" (don't get me wrong, "Alien" is in my top ten films of all time) with more plot-holes and bad science then you could shake a stick at. You need to show these people how it is done.

Second step, is signing on a visionary director.

Let's get cracking!

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Greg Bear
Date: 07/23/2012

Thanks, John--

We're still working hard on it! Fingers crossed...

Greg

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Brian Beatty
Location: Ireland
Date: 07/26/2012

I agree with you on getting the 2 novels made into films, but I enjoyed "Prometheus", I thought it was excellent. Regarding plot holes, they will be answered in the upcoming game "Alien: Colonial Marines" or in a possible "Prometheus" sequel. But the movie did give me what I wanted; revealed the origin of the Xenomorphs, some of the 33 years-old mysteries of the Engineers/Space Jockeys and lots of people dying in many horrible ways. As far as the actual scientific accuracy of some of the movie elements-origins of humanity, interspecies birth; it is science-fiction and therefore not likely to be accurate. If all sci-fi movies and novels were following real known physics-they'd be nowhere near as exciting or fun. But that's just my humble opinion.

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Arthur
Location: Canada
Date: 09/03/2012

While we are at it, are/were there any plans to make a movie or mini series of Eon or that series?

A fantastic "trailer" is out there on YouTube (there are several, based on a CGI contest, but I like this one the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrLo1qUkCH8) so it is certainly within the ability of film makers to create a cinematic version of the book, but is there the interest?

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Adrian Jones
Location: Japan
Date: 09/20/2012

I've just re-read Forge of God. Oh my, I'd forgotten what a magnificent and moving book it is. I really hope the film project comes off. But I was wondering whether Greg felt the impact of the story had been lessened by some of its ideas being - ahem - "borrowed" by the Nicholas Cage film, Knowing .

I'm glad you enjoyed Prometheus, Brian. For myself, I enjoyed the spectacle of it but overall I came away slightly disappointed.

(SPOILER ALERT)

My reasons are really two-fold: Firstly, I thought the actions of the crew were somewhat bizarre. Upon encountering an alien environment for the first time - would you really be in a rush to whip off the helmet to sample the evening air? I wouldn't. When confronted with vials leaking ominous-looking black goo, would you really dive in to retrieve a thick finger-scoop? Not to mention trying to endear yourself to an alien creature by tickling it under the chin (BIG mistake!).

Secondly - the plot lines didn't tie up neatly enough with either the first or second Alien films. I watched the first again just the other night (still brilliant). One of the most memorable scenes was the sight of the fossilised space jockey slumped over the controls of the ship. Yet in Prometheus, the creature meets its end after a rather one-sided bout of tonsil tennis with Squiddly-Diddly.

I might of missed something but it just didn't add up to me. And the sight of the alien ship disappearing over the horizon, clearly en route for Prometheus 2, just about finished it off for me.

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/31/2012

We're working on something interesting here, but won't spill the beans until they're cooked and highly seasoned. Thanks, Arthur!

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/31/2012

Thanks, Adrian! I haven't seen PROMETHEUS yet myself so I skipped the last part of your message. As for FORGE OF GOD, our fine script has been all over Hollywood. Screenwriters are ever hungry for ideas.

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Jonathan Williams
Location: United States
Date: 11/10/2012

Waiting for this eagerly. This is one I might just wait in line overnight to see.

Re: For the love of all things Holy...Greg, please get

From: Brian Beatty
Location: Ireland
Date: 11/12/2012

Yeah I hope there's word about Eon coming onto the big screen soon. Hey Adrian, I totally get your reasons regarding the crews bizarre actions in Prometheus. I wouldn't do what they did either but then again if they all did the logical things everytime it probably wouldn't have been much of a movie. I had to watch it twice to get it all.

If you break up every movie your gonna find major plot holes or characters doing stupid things. I mean hell I paid to see what would happen to those guys when they started messing around with the black goo and the alien snake (very BIG mistake).

The scene with the Space Jockey in Alien was also one biggest scenes in it for me. And as for the fight between the creature and the Giant facehugger, he was pretty much screwed, you'd be if you did same as he did, charging in no weapon and all. As I said there plot holes which will hopefully be answered in the sequel. I'm getting the blu-ray edition movie shortly as i believe the deleted scenes and extra bonus contents actually give some answers or give hints as to why things happened as they did.

I think Ridley Scott intended for the movie to confuse the audience. He is a master of sci-fi movies despite having done what only 3 or 4 i think. For me the enjoyment was(people dying horrible deaths notwithstanding)finding at least something out about the Space Jockeys, the special effects were to die for and it was a movie that made me think about these kind of big questions that the movie poses, about life, death, the possibility of alien life, intelligence beyond our own.

Plot-wise one of my biggest questions is about the mural of the Xenomorph-like creature on the wall in front of the altar in the ampoule chamber-just what is the significance of it. All I know is i'll have faith in Ridley when the sequel comes along in a few years. Hopefully then i'll have more answers regarding this movie and the alien franchise as a whole. Bye for now. P.S. Apologies if this messege is too long.

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