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Topic: Society of Mind and Transactional analysis

From: kurt9
Location: Portland, Oregon
Date: 09/20/2010

Your novel, "Queen of Angels", has prompted me to review both Marvin Minsky's "Society of Mind" and Eric Berne's "Transactional Analysis". I know this was discussed several years ago here. I think both concepts are quite good. Transactional Analysis is more rooted in the Freudian stages of life stuff (childhood, parent, etc.) where as "Society of Mind" is not. I suspect the real story is some blend of these two concepts.

I know I was critical of "Society of Mind" in the past, because I considered "Transactional Analysis" to be more rooted in "real" psychological experiences. However, I think both concepts are necessary to understand the human psyche.

I was wondering if anyone has considered both of these concepts together in an effort to understand the human mind as well as to develop A.I.

Re: Society of Mind and Transactional analysis

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/02/2010

Sounds like you're ready for Julian Jaynes!

Re: Society of Mind and Transactional analysis

From: kurt9
Location: Portland, Oregon
Date: 10/02/2010

I read Julian Jaynes a long time ago (late 80's I think). I think his idea has merit. No one has followed up on it as far as I know.

In any case, the idea of human consciousness being a system consisting of subselves is probably correct and is necessary to both understand human consciousness (and psychology) as well as to develop effective A.I. It does not seem to me that this approach is popular among researchers in either field right now.

Re: Society of Mind and Transactional analysis

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/30/2010

It is, however, quite popular among computer designers and engineers.

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