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Topic: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: alex henderson
Location: Montreal
Date: 02/01/2010

I have ended up with an odd tradition. Every time I travel to China, I am reading one of your books. I have taken QoA, Slant, and The Collected Stories with me on different trips. I will never forget sitting in a coffee shop in Beijing airport laughing at the amusing prequel connections between Moving Mars and Heads, which I read in that order.

It was with some joy that I planned a recent trip, as by chance it lined up with the release of Mariposa, albeit only in hardcover. It is extremely rare for me to buy a hardcover of anything these days, but some traditions die hard.

Anyway, my question is this: Will there be a gap filler book that paints in the space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels? We have seen the moment of the rise of Raphkind, and we know in theory how it ends, but the how and the why are always interesting. DO you have an intentions to fill in this blank space?

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: Greg Bear
Date: 02/01/2010

Indeed, I'm thinking it over right now. Thanks for the support and interest, Alex!

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: kurt
Location: Portland, Oregon
Date: 02/24/2010

I just read "Mariposa" and enjoyed it very much. I noticed that you are using characters and institutions that appear in the QoA/Heads/MM trilogy. I assume when you first wrote QoA that you created Raphkind as a 2040's version of Richard Nixon. Is this correct?

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: Greg Bear
Date: 03/04/2010

Much more complex, perhaps much worse. Working on his character now!

Re: Nixon/Raphkind

From: kurt
Location: Portland, Oregon
Date: 04/07/2010

Maybe Raphkind is more like Bush II. I noticed that Mary Choi, who is 28 in QofA, is 2 years old in Mariposa, which makes the time of the story 2021. If Raphkind became president in 2021, then the Raphkind you have in QofA, having committed suicide one year prior to the story, would have to be his son.

Perhaps Raphkind Jr. is a amalgamation of Nixon and Bush II (with a little JFK and LBJ thrown it), with daddy issues to boot! I'm sure you are having fun working on his character. He ought to be quite the piece of work.

Re: Nixon/Raphkind

From: Greg Bear
Date: 04/10/2010

Novelists reserve the right to tinker with time a little bit!

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: alex henderson
Location: Montreal
Date: 04/10/2010

Actually, considering all of the interesting things that may have happened in the Raphkind years, it wouldn't be unusual to see the two term limit revoked or at least suspended. I can imagine him as a near dictator, President of the RSA (Remaining States Of America) for 20 + years.

I could picture many changes coming after Mariposa that would dramatically shift the rules of the game going forward.

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: Greg Bear
Date: 05/07/2010

Interesting! All will be revealed in due time... but keep on throwing the ideas at me. They're very helpful zeroing in on this future history.

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: alex henderson
Location: montreal
Date: 05/20/2010

honestly, I would love to give you some ideas, but it might be plenty too long for this sort of forum. if you are so inclined, drop me a line or let me know where I might send you something a little longer, I would really enjoy that.

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: Greg Bear
Date: 05/28/2010

Not necessary to write my story for me, but happy to have you continue to post commentary, Alex. And keep me on my toes as far as continuity goes!

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: alex henderson
Location: montreal
Date: 10/02/2010

I would say that one thing for sure is that there is going to be at some point between the two what would be considered a major break through or two.

Actually, I wonder: Where does Moving Mars fall in the timeline? ;)

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/30/2010

MOVING MARS is at the end of the cycle, after HEADS.

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: alex henderson
Location: now in hong kong
Date: 12/12/2013

Been a while, but I wanted to toss a couple of things out:

I always thought it would be interesting to see Mary Choi before and after transform, did the transform come before being a cop, or the other way around? The social / work related aspects could be an interesting area to play off of. I don't picture her as so much of a key character as in Angels, but perhaps a new recruit tagging with an experienced player (could a Mariposa character have moved into city law?)

Also, the building of the super city of Los Angeles might also be an intersting future historical time. The development of the technology to make these massive structures possible (and safe!) is perhaps a key to any plot or sitation.

There are huge technology and social gaps between the two stories, and the grinding of the gears as those events occur, against the political reality of the US breaking into so many pieces seems tasty and tempting.

Okay, 3 years for that seems along time... :)

Re: The space between Mariposa and Queen of Angels

From: Greg Bear
Date: 12/16/2013

Cool ideas. Thanks for writing, Alex!

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