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Topic: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: Mike Glosson
Location: San Diego
Date: 11/07/2007

Saw this over on Nature just now:

http://www.nature.com/news/2007/071107/full/450147a.html

It's been decades, but didn't one of your intersteller stories, maybe "The Venging" , have a whole area of space full of Singularities, both brashly naked and properly clothed in event horizons?

On other news, San Diego is very cool and overcast, no threat of Red Flag Warning Winds. At times a smokey haze settles over everything.

Mike

Re: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: Greg Bear
Date: 11/09/2007

Black holes were definitely cool back in the late sixties, early seventies. We're still arguing over the same things that were bring argued over about singularities back then!

Re: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: Mike Glosson
Location: San Diego
Date: 11/10/2007

You may have noticed that there was a lead item on the next day regarding High Energy Cosmic Rays having been traced back to Super Massived Black Holes in AGNs, two sources pinned down within 250-300 Million Light years.
After I saw your reply I reflected on these two back to back black hole items, and that I had just recently re-read Benford's COSM earlier this week (and I saw an actual proposal to running U-238 thru the RHIC, reality echoing fiction?) as a) decompression from Heidegger and b) to sort of get in the head space of our Neuroscientist friend who was staying over. Which segue's me back thru my close reading of BEING AND TIME, and waking up sick one morning during the middle of that, two unfocused to do phenominology, so I reached over and started DARWIN'S CHILDREN, which I finished the next evening. I especially like the "Scientist haunted by Epiphany" subplot, which reminded me that Dr. Dan's PhD advisor at UCSD is the Cog-psyche gent who has been pushing the model that the human brain is wired for "God" or "Immanence".
In the last few years I've come to like and see more science fiction about actual scientists, living human lives while trying to get a true glimpse of reality.
And twice, during my sabatical, I've been able to use your work as either a decompression or break from harder work (currently doing research into San Diego's Kumeyaay and their spirtual link to the land here).
From the notes in the back of DARWIN'S CHILDREN am looking to get a copy of Vitals, sounds intruging from the notes there, and a short recap I read.
In parting, when I posted the black hole item, I saw an entry about Corona, which I've never read, seldom reading Star Trek Novels. Burgette Books moved into Normal Heights a couple of years ago, and a copy of CORONA was in their Star Trek section. Was, now it's on the desk next to the laptop...

MG

Re: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: patrick
Location:
Date: 11/12/2007

Mmmm, we've talked about this stuff before here. As well, someone, perhaps me, has mentioned Benford's treatment of this idea, particularly in FOUNDATION'S FEAR, in combination with Matt Visser's LORENZTIAN WORMHOLES: FROM EINSTEIN TO HAWKING (which Benford references in the appendix or whatever of FF - and, curiously, which I'd already stumbled over).

http://books.google.com/books?id=hhwJAAAACAAJ&dq=Matt+Visser&prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3DMATT%2BVISSER%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26startIndex%3D%26startPage%3D1&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=1&cad=author-navigational

Re: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: Greg Bear
Date: 11/14/2007

Say hello to Bill next time you're in Normal Heights! I remember his book stores all the way back to Lemon Grove...

Re: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: Mike Glosson
Location: Normal Heights, San Diego, CA
Date: 11/14/2007

Mike

Actually the Store is within walking distance...it was crawling distance when I lived on Book Row, commonly known as Adams Avenue. Just moved out to Mission Valley's south rim last March.

Over the weekend I got a chance to read CORONA, and was pleasantly suprised, and nearly did a "spit take" when on page 14 I found Uhura describing to backwater a news hound of the future the loyalty of the crew of the Enterprise to Captain Kirk: "I don't think there's a man or woman on board who wouldn't follow him down the mouth of a naked singularity." With a couple other naked singularity lines scattered thru the book.

It's an unfortunate truth that far too many STAR TREK novels are just card board space opera in the Roddenberry Universe; but your short entry into the subgenre had ethical dilemnas, the problems of racism produced by xenophobic human-ism, and a deeper Stapledonian background of the Corona's relation to the phases of the universe.

Corona also appears to mark one of major milestones in your career, as I find "Bear's Future Physics" from your earlier inter-related intersteller stories in the descriptions of Warp Drive (long before the new canon enforced by the four daughter series) and then hints of human enhancement in Captain Kirk's translator implants, reminding me of the citizens of Axis City in EON.

I hit Bill's store on about once a week, as I look for rare paperbacks that need replacing in the Library. I don't think he's on the internet/amazon yet as I see no computer at the front desk or elsewhere. And I'm always wondering when the store will turn into a Book-Singularity, as evertime I'm there, it's more and more and more books, sometimes making it hard to navigate the ever growing and often chaotic selections.

Mike

Re: Naked Singularities: A flash from the past

From: Greg Bear
Date: 12/02/2007

Good to hear Bill's still selling through bricks and mortar. That's my favorite way to buy books! (Take a look at the date on CORONA--as I recall, EON was almost half done in rough draft, going the rounds, and being rejected by all and sundry... Until Jim Frenkel picked it up at Bluejay, bless him!)

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