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Topic: Anvil of Stars

From: Stephen Davies
Location: Sydney Australia
Date: 08/09/2006

Hi Mr Bear,

congratulations on your great books as a fellow sci fi fan they are a terrific read.

I know you must be busy but my question is I am keen to read Anvil of Stars and am having a hard time getting hold of a copy. I have been told by numerous bookshops that it is long out of print and only available from the US or UK on a special order.

I was wondering if you have an Australian distributor for your books who I might be able to contact to get hold of a copy.

Hoping you can help

Stephen
an aussie fan.

P.S. do you have any plans for visiting Australia in the near future on a book promo as I would love to meet one of the masters of the game and get some of my books signed.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 08/09/2006

Hello, Stephen! Tor Books will be bringing Anvil of Stars (and Eternity) back into print in the U.S. soon, most likely in trade paper editions. We're signing the contracts now. No book promos plans for Australia--but would love to get back down there and visit again!

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Michael Pine
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Date: 08/14/2006

Greg,

I have asked this question of you a couple of times, about coming to Australia on a Book Promo and you give me the same answer.

I think it is about you showed us in Australia just how much you would love to get down here for a visit!

I am going to be in The US in late October and Early to Mid November, do you have any public appearances scheduled for this time ???

cheers
Michael

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 08/14/2006

Ah, don't I wish! A nice long tour of Australia would be wonderful--but, there's a novel to finish before the end of the year, so no major public appearances in November, alas. Have fun in the U.S.!

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Kev Charlton
Location: Olinda, Victoria
Date: 09/25/2006

Hi Stephen.

I too had trouble finding a copy of Anvil Of Stars, but the trusty library system in Australia dug me out a copy earlier this year. I also came across a copy recently in a book store in Brisbane. A little bookshop on Carrara Street in Mt Gravatt, Brisbane.
Hope that helps, and Good Luck.
regards, Kev

Anvil of Stars

From: Denis Zhorin
Location: Visaginas, Lithuania
Date: 06/28/2007

Hello, Mr.Bear!
Thank You for such an interesting book. I was really fascinated while reading "Anvil of Stars". One strange idea came into my mind when I was finishing it. Unfortunately, I read the book in Russian, so some names and terms in translation may be misrepresented. Nevertheless, I would like to ask You a question. If You have some time, please, reply.
Martin (main character of the book) and his team, destroying the system of Leviathan, may have been doing the Job of the Benefactors who wanted to use the saved inhabitants of the Earth to kill innocent creaters of Leviathan. The "Benefactors" (they saved some people from the Earth) may set different worlds on each other. Thus,"Benefactors" may play the role of Devil. Is my interpretation possible?
I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 06/28/2007

Good to hear from you, Zhorin! (And hello from our friends in the Lithuanian community here in Seattle.) The situation around Leviathan is even more diabolical. The Planet Killers have created the equivalent of "human shields" to deflect or distract those hunting them. The innocents did not create the weapons that destroyed Earth, but our hunters can't eliminate the real perpretrators without killing innocents.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Scott Stahl
Location: Curtice, ohio
Date: 09/23/2007

Hi. I found Anvil of Stars a fascinating read. I was really
moved by what I read and find myself re-reading it from time to time.
Recently I was on David Brin's site and read some interesting posts about the SETI project and foolish attempts by some to increase our electromagnetic "footprint", presumably to attract the attention of any advanced civilizations out there.

I assume you are aware of this controversy. When I read about this it brought the whole Von Neumann berserker, Forge of God-Anvil of Stars premise to mind. Do you think we Could be "bringing the Wolves" down on us by such attempts? Just wondered if you have any comment. BTW Whats the latest on the Forge of God Anvil of stars movies? I'd love to see them made. I hope they're not stuck in development hell like the Foundation. Big Foundation and Chaos fan too. Thanks

Scott Stahl

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 09/23/2007

Thanks, Scott! FORGE OF GOD was one of the earliest--if not the earliest--to propose this cautionary answer to the Fermi paradox: Smart civilizations keep quiet, dumb ones--or young ones--are noisy, attract predators, and are soon extinguished. Of course, this scenario has been implied in many science fiction works over the decades--recently in Saberhagen's Berserker stories and Benford's Galactic Center series. David is currently running with the issue, trying to persuade less circumspect pioneers in such research that shouting into the darkness might not be a good idea. I strongly agree.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Sam Anthony
Location: Seattle, WA
Date: 05/16/2009

Greetings from Seattle, Mr Bear.

I moved to Seattle 6 months ago. I finished up 2 books from Arthur C. Clarke... Time's eye. He didnt live to create the third one, at least that I know of. I have read almost all his books, along with his collection of short stories (a pretty thick book). I needed a new Author to be a fan of. I think I found it in your books.

I went to Barnes and Nobles in West Seattle/Westwood and picked up your book, Anvil of the Stars. It is my first purchase of a book in Seattle since I moved here 6 months ago. Halfway through, I said... this guy is definitely in the vein of Arthur C. Clarke, but adds some really good character development... something Arthur did... but he would spend 10 pages explaining a character's past...it would get tiresome at times.... but with your book I never felt that. You exposed us to the characters over time.... and I appreciated that. I read your book on the bus every day until I finished it. It took about a month, but it felt as if I woke up to friends everyday. Thank you for the ride... it was insanely cool. Make a movie of this, please!!

Lastly... I havent seen this from Authors before... but... have you or any other Authors made a technical manual to go along with your Books. Some times you read a book and have ideas of weapons, ships, planets, etc... but you'd like to see the Artist's conception or Idea, just to see if they envisioned what you did. I havent seen anything like this outside of a movie's technical manual gallery, but it would be good to see one from a distinguished Author such as yourself.

Cheers from Seattle,

Sam

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 05/22/2009

Thanks, Sam! We're still working on ANVIL as a film, in the scripting stage. Fingers crossed for seven years now...

I think you'll be pleased to know that Sir Arthur expressed his approval of ANVIL's first part, THE FORGE OF GOD--as well as EON, which of course owes considerable debt to RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: John Walton
Location: Tendon, Ma
Date: 02/19/2011

Hello Greg! I've just finished this work in ebook form, and twice through I miss the part introducing the discovery of the Brothers Ship of the Law. It jumps from the Crews return from the Death ship to anticipation of the coming meeting with the Brothers ship. Apparently, the discovery of the second Ship of the Law is left as an exercise for the reader. Is this the way it's written, or was this left out for some reason.

Whichever the case may be; truly fascinating story! After the first reading over Christmas, I couldn't get the imagery of the story out of my hard, and had to read it again within a month. Truly a gem.

Thanks!
John

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 04/03/2011

Hello, John! Please send me the sentence after which you think the break occurs, and the next sentence, and I'll check it against my text to see whether there's a problem. Thanks for the kind words!

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Rod Piwowarski
Location: Uk
Date: 09/18/2012

Over twenty years ago whilst I studied engineering in Manchester England my friend recommended EON.

I always felt that I could imagine the future, but after enjoying EON so much I read Anvil. Wow! I was amazed, someone else thinks along similar lines, infact probably way ahead.

After reading about the communication method, effectively pictures in the air, I wondered if this is how dolphins communicate. Recently I Googled this idea again and to my surprise researchers are now seriously considering the idea. The idea that the clicks, squeeks and ultrasonics that dolphins produce paint a detailed movie, not just still pictures, in the mind of other dolphins. We have effectively been trying to understand the noises of a TV transmission without a TV. No wonder we fail to communicate with them. Anyway, I just wonder if you had similar thoughts and had anyone noticed the connection to the communication method in
Anvil of then Stars? I feel our own communication methods move towards pictures everyday :) but Dolphines were probably there a long time before us.
Regards Rod

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/31/2012

A lovely idea indeed, and it does open up our understanding of language! Thanks, Rod.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/31/2012

A lovely idea indeed, and it does open up our understanding of language! Thanks, Rod.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 10/31/2012

A lovely idea indeed, and it does open up our understanding of language! Thanks, Rod.

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Scott Stahl
Location: United States
Date: 04/03/2013

I've just finished (Another!) re-reading of Anvil. I wrote several years ago asking about David Brin's efforts to speak out against shouting into the darkness. You were kind enough to give gracious, detailed answers to my questions. Another aspect that has held continuing fascination for me is what I would call the Liberal vs Conservative views on the enactment of the law among the characters. How much was that on your mind as you wrote? I know you may be reluctant to delve into politics (I don't blame you). I noticed Ariel's reflexive distrust, if not downright paranoia of the Mom's/Benefactors vs the strange ability to overlook the very obvious clues of the killers continued presence... The idea of blaming and distrusting the good guys while wanting to trust enemies. Liberals among us tend to be harder on ourselves than conservatives. We still see the old "Blame America" arguments crop up in our politics regularly. (On the whole I believe the US has been a force for good in the world...but not perfect for sure!) Many in the crew are guilt-ridden over "revenge". Martin at the end asking "who or what has been served?" The Brothers, most of the crew, still stuck on guilt for vengeance. Not explored by many with much depth is the concept of Justice, not just revenge. I would want to avenge the destruction of my home, but in the act of carrying out the law much more was accomplished. The finding of millions, if not billions of brand new needle ships waiting to be unleashed means that in destroying this huge civilization the crew had saved countless others (More Trillions?) from future destruction. Surely that made enactment of the law not only excusable, but absolutely necessary! Perhaps being stuck together in a tin can, no matter how big and fancy, gave the people a more Myopic view...an inability to see themselves and their actions as part of a larger whole. The perspective of the ships mind lends weight to the idea that it saw the crew as needing some growing up and perspective in times to come. Perhaps as a reader given a more god's eye view I shouldn't be too dismissive of some of the characters reactions...there are plenty of ambiguities even for us. A great read makes me want to scream at the characters- "Are You blind?!?! What the hell are you thinking?!?!" Which means you did your job very well! Hats off!

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 04/10/2013

Thanks, Scott. Going back over those themes makes my head spin!

Re: Anvil of Stars

From: Greg Bear
Date: 04/10/2013

Thanks, Scott. Going back over those themes makes my head spin!

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